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Subject: Re: Economics of abuse children and fathers Posted on: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:00:02 +0100 (CET)


"David Moss" wrote in message news:MPG.224c651893d6586498b2d3@news.bigpond.com...
> In article <27a4b736163dd63ff12673a797dafff4@remailer.metacolo.com>,
>> >
>> It's your choice to post under real name, same as is my choice to post using remailers to protect my family.
>
> Crap. You do it so you can post nasty vindictive things about people and
> avoid the consequences. Gutless, IMO.
>

As said many times: Government know who I am.
Nobody sue me for defamation yet as what I post is true.

>> Government, police and the big circle of people know my real name and other details
>
> Which means you have no legitimate reason to use remailers.
>

Sure. I have to apply for permission to use remailers and you are in charge to approve it.
You would be surprised to find out how close to your place I live :)


>> and some are supporting my fight for justice, recognition of family, removal of perverts from Public Service and morality in Australia.
>
> You seem to be running a number of different agendas here, but have them
> confused.
>

I am not confused. You are. I am running same agenda for 7 years: recognition of family, removal of perverts from Public Service and morality in Australia.


>
> Rock them out and race them then.

ICAC and other Government officials did not show any interest yet.

> After all, you are behind a remailer.

So what?

> Lets see some names, dates, places and references to the Acts
> transgressed. Its got to be more interesting than your whining about
> admitting to the police you assaulted your ex-wife and getting locked
> up.

I am not paying lawyers to do prove anything to you.

If you want some names, dates, places and references please provide finance or name of the lawyer want to pursue my claims and I will send documentation - justice is very expensive in Australia and my total yearly income is just above $10,000.


>
>> Why people can not apply for public jobs in Australia directly, but have to pay ransom to family
>> "businesses" run by Senior Public Servants? Isn't that clear corruption case?
>
> Not really. So long as interests are declared and public officers do not
> take part in decisions in which they have a conflict of interest, there
> is no problem. The public service handles conflicts of interest for
> staff members as a routine matter. There are documented procedures in
> place to deal with conflicts. If they are followed there is no
> corruption.

I repeat: Why people can not apply for public jobs in Australia directly?
I DO NOT ask for closing of employment agencies although they have monopoly of employment. I just want to apply directly and keep the wage intact. Why is this prohibited for the most og Government jobs? (hint: corruption).

>
>> And Labors are run by Unions who "protect" workers (who pay high mafia style ransom as membership to be protected)
>> and you can't believe about who I am talking about. What an deliberate idiotic thinking! Give me a break!
>
> Come on now Mr Remailer. Lets not pussyfoot around. Name names.


See above. Or read previous posts - plenty of names there.


>
> There are all sorts of families. In most cases the father, mother and
> children is my preferred model, but there are all sorts of
> possibilities.
>

Other possibilites are exemptions or perversions.


> I currently participate in a family relationship within which one of the
> children is not biologically related to anyone else in the home. That
> child is very much a part of the family.
>

Let me guess (as I don't know you and your family). Sounds like you live with boyfriend and you have stolen child from hetero.ual family?


> Claiming a relationship is not a family unless it consists of a father,
> mother and children is archaic and insulting. Does a family stop being a
> family if the father or mother is killed in an accident?

No. But at the begining the family was father, mother and children.

> Of course not.
> So why should a mother and children stop being a family because the
> father is booted out of the relationship?
>


Why is father booted out? Because woman have choice of adultery? Sorry, I do not buy this,

Also claiming that 2 poofs or lesbians, or lesbo with 2 dogs are equal family to traditional family is insane.


> In fact why should the private domestic arrangements of the adults
> involved affect the definition of family at all?
>

Why should Government regulate natural family and prevent it's survival to apease homo.uals?


>> What you call family without children is called couple.
>
> True.
>
>> What you call relationship between same gender can be friendship or perversion but never a family.
>
> Depends on who else is involved.

See above.

>
>> Extended family includes (with mother, father and children) other relatives and figurativelly some people say that they pets are also member of the family.
>
>> Hope that help in your education.
>
> I hope its the start of yours.

With PhD and 2 other University degrees and some other post-graduate studies, I have finished my education long time ago.

What qualifications you have?

>
> Lets start slowly.
>

If you are slow learner why not?

> Does a traditional nuclear family (father, mother, biological children
> of the two) cease being a family if the father is killed in a motor
> vehicle accident?
>

No. But originally they were father mother and children family. Declaring that Minister for Family and her 2 dogs are equal family is insane.

>> We all know attitude of Jenny Macklin toward fathers and women rights and on her website
>> she claimed that her family is her and 2 dogs living in Heidelberg house.
>
> Presumably she has a father and a mother and has experience growing up
> in a family environment.
>

So I should not try family life myself and spent years on Uni as my mother and father teach me all about life and family?

>> Regarding Minister For Families job, I am sure that between 21 Million Australians
>> there is someone with experience from living in normal, traditional family,
>> who can do job better than person living with 2 dogs instead husband and children.
>> Jenny would much better work as and RSPCA director than "protecting" families as
>> she is not a family person and has no ideas what is motherhood and family
>> relationship between father, mother and children and she clearly demonstrated
>> lack og family knowledge while oposing just changes in family law.
>
> The skills required to administer a bureaucracy that protects families
> are different from the skills required to be a member of a family. Jenny
> is not some sort of space alien, she has extensive experience living
> within a family and does not need to procreate in order to make this
> claim.
>

Australian families do not need bureaucracy administrator as Minister for family but someone with real family experience to revert changes made to family law by people who never were members of the normal family.

> I contend that she is far more qualified to administer her department
> than any bloke who has been rejected by his wife, admitted to family
> violence and spent decades stalking his spouse and spitting venom ant
> anyone who gets in his way.
>

I have PhD, some other UNI education and more than 20 years of marriage + few children.

I know much more about family life than someone living with 2 dogs who never tried family life.


>> I held her personally responsible for recent fraud imposed on me by Centrelink
>> and CSA in falsifications of numbers of days my children spend with me on my
>> detriment and I want that Minister for families is family man or woman
>> representing also interests of fathers and children which is not a case
>> now and was not a case during Howard dictatorship.
>
> Hmm, so you hold someone who was not even a Minister at the time
> responsible for an adverse outcome in yet another of your disputes with
> your ex-wife?

If you read post about CSA and CEntrelink fraud again you may find the date of CSA letter denying my care for my daughter.
She was a Minister for substantial time on the day of abuse of my family by CSA.

>
> What are you going to do now that your children are approaching an age
> where you can no longer use them as stalking horses?
>

My children are not stalking horses silly,silly, silly pervert.


>> Regarding your equalising of dogs with husband and children,
>> I am sure that nominating Jenny's dogs on CEO positions in Centrelink
>> and CSA or nominating them on positions in ACT Magistrates Court
>> and AFP will result with more human treatment of my family than
>> we had in the past and have now.
>
> Look mate, by your own definition you have no family.
> You aren't even part of a couple, which you reject as a family model
> above. You are an individual. Get over it.
>

Wov, what a claim! I live with my wife and children and I have no family!
Even someone terminally stupid like you can do it better.

> If you want to be part of a family, stop stalking your ex-wife, find a
> person who will accept you into a relationship, and start one.
>

And how am I stalking my ex-wife?

Please explain as I didn't see her for 6 years, I never post her name, I never sue her for substantial damages she made to own children and me, I do not claim any money for our children care from the Government (she get all) ?

How you define stalking?

























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