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Subject: Re: Tasing people for their own protection. Posted on: Fri, 09 May 2008 14:33:15 +1000

Sylvia Else wrote...

> In any society that is not a police state, there are rules that govern
> the interactions between police officers and the people they're
> policing. These rules are there to prevent the police from behaving as
> if they are in a police state.

Yeah, well, you can blow all of that out the window if all the other states
adopt SA's "anti-bikie" legislation which just went through that state's Upper
House the other night.

According to what I've read so far, just buy knowing a guy who is, or was a
member or even an associate of a "bikie" gang you can be locked up without the
opportunity to defend yourself, or for the police to prove beyond reasonable
doubt that you committed a crime.

I have an occasional beer with a guy who is what's refered to as a prospective
associate of the Melbourne Hells Angels. He is also a union organiser for a
major union. Now, if I have a few beers with the guy on a Friday night or that
we meet to discuss an EBA or some IR issue and I'm being watched with this guy,
after 6 events of this kind I can be arrested and locked up without any further
cause.

Now, you tell me that a copper tasering someone because he was a threat was bad.
This is infinitely worse.


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The only difference between the wingnuts on each end of the
political spectrum is *which* civil rights they think we can do
without