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Re: Bicycle crash - what charge ? Posted on: Sat, 10 May 2008 00:12:48 EST


"Phil Allison" wrote in message
news:68is20F2tg1glU1@mid.individual.net...
>
[....]

>> It's weird to see in S51A how BOTH (a) and (b) must exist for
>> the offence of "predatory driving" can be committed.
>
> ** Not weird at all - it is bleeding obvious that intent to harm
> a person must exist.

RM: It ~is~ weird, because some motorists may wish to
damage an expensive car with predatory driving - without any
intention of harming any occupant, but they would not be guilty
of preditory driving.

>> It's not an
>> offence (in that section of the Act) to deliberately damage another
>> vehicle without harming an occupant, but it IS an offence to cause
>> bodily harm.
>
>
> ** Section 51A has nothing to say about causing actual damage or
> bodily harm.

(says Phil who tells others to read)

Now read S.51A again s-l-o-w-l-y this time, Phil

(1) Take particular note of the words "that causes [..] an impact'"
(Impact causes "damage" Phil.)

(2) Also -- "intends [..] to cause [....] actual bodily harm"

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51A Predatory driving

(1) The driver of a vehicle who, while in pursuit of or travelling
near another vehicle:
(a) engages in a course of conduct that causes or threatens an
impact involving the other vehicle, and
(b) intends by that course of conduct to cause a person in the
other vehicle actual bodily harm,
================

[...]


> ...... Phil

Ray


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