Peter Webb wrote:
>
> "fasgnadh" wrote in message
> news:482bfa89$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>> Over the last few years we have grown accustomed to
>> tory Governments acting more like Soviet apparatchiks,
>> detaining and even deporting Australian citizens on entirely
>> spurious grounds, but those human rights abuses pall into
>> insignificance compared to the conspiracy to assassinate Normie
>> Row by falsely drafting him and sending him into a war zone
>> where he faced death.
>>
>> The last time I can recall someone attempting this was in the
>> biblical story of King David, who, coveting Bathsheba, the wife
>> of Uriah, arranges for a one-night stand in his luxurious suite,
>> and when she falls pregnant, has Uriah sent to battle and
>> ultimately killed and takes Bathsheba for his wife.
>>
>> "HE was Australia's most famous Vietnam conscript
>> but it can now be revealed that pop idol Normie
>> Rowe was falsely drafted into the army.
>>
>> And he should never have been sent to war."
>> - Herald Sun 15/5/2008
>>
>> "The Department of Veterans' Affairs has this week
>> confirmed that Rowe's birth date - February 1, 1947
>> - was never raised in the controversial ballot of
>> dates that selected which 20-year-old men would be
>> called up to serve.
>>
>> Mystery surrounds how the nation's most high-profile
>> pop singer could have been singled out for conscription.
A mystery which Webb does nothing to clarify, although
he does try and muddy the water so that those responsible for this
outrageous abuse of state power go unquestioned and never be held
to account! 8^o
>> But the "ballot" that drafted Rowe was one of the last
>> conducted behind closed doors."
>>
>
> An interesting contradiction.
Only to you, because you appear not to understand whats going on. B^D
> The premise of the story is that Rowe's birthday was not one of the ones
> selected by the ballot.
What ballot?
The assumption which you have made assumes there was one,
but as it was a closed system you have no proof there was a ballot,
they may simply have picked dates of birth of the young men courting
their daughters. ;-)
Why do you always jump to confusions based on NO DATA! B^
What we do know is that Rowe's birthday was not the basis on which he
was conscripted, and the voodoo that went on behind closed doors is not
the issue, the ILLEGAL CONSCRIPTION IS!
Why do you tories always aim for smoke and mirror obfuscation to
cover up?
> Why then would it be significant that the ballot was conducted behind
> closed doors,
Because no one would possibly know that Rowe's birthdate was NOT
selected by ballot, you dimwit.. and the Lieberals conscripted
him - the the ONLY person in the country with that birthdate who
was conscripted!
No one knows, or cares, if they counted syphillis scabs on
each others genitals to determine the other young men who would
be sent to war.
> if the ballot didn't actually select Rowe's birthday?
You have some doubt? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAHA
If there was a ballot, and his number was up , then others
with the same birthdate would have been conscripted with him.
So, I understand your desire to coverup, but do you think
your lunatic dance of the broken winged dimwit will suffice
as a distraction? B^D
> Which raises another contradiction in this story - why bother taking the
> very risky course of calling up Rowe if his birthday was not selected by
> ballot,
Because a secret process meant no one would realise for FORTY YEARS,
you blathering idiot! B^D
> when it would have been far simpler and much less risky to
> ensure his birthday was one of the ones selected by the ballot?
They did, the 'ballot' was a piece of string.
A Humpty Dumpty artifice, which they perverted.
"Who do we want to be conscripted? Normie Rowe.
Oh look, magically his birthdate has been 'balloted',
not everyone else with that birthdate, just him!" B^p
BECAUSE the 'ballot process' was secret, no one could dispute their
chicanery.
> (It wasn't).
>
> It turns out, according to the guy interviewed on the ABC,
WHich guy? What ABC program are you citing?
Is this your latest version of the 'secret ballot'!?
"Trust us, it was all above board, just ignore the
man conscripted even though his number never came up!"
You tories are a .ing RIOT!
NO ONE has any rights worth protecting, in your view,
except YOURS, yo . everyone else over, at will!
What a classic in Lieberal 'Born to rule' mentality.
> that
> non-residents of Australia (which is what Rowe was at the time) used
> different birthday sequences in the ballot.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAA!
WTF is a 'birthday sequence'? B^D
Listen diposhit, no one thinks the following is TRUE, because
it is the story told by those lying bastards falsely conscripted
their target.. but THEIR claim is that conscripts were selected
by having their birthdate selected randomly from a ballot.
Clearly that is bullshit. At least in this man's case.
And there was never any magic alternative 'birthday sequence',
so please don't pull one post hoc, from your arse,
or the arse of another lying, self serving tory liar.
> Boring and unexciting though this explanation is,
Sure, if you say so, but the critical problem is that
it is nonsensical and irrational! B^D
> it does avoid the
truth.
and replaces it with
..
> the "conspiracy theory" of the usual loony crowd.
Give my regards to your fellow loonies.
As you have done nothing to explain why this man was corruptly
conscripted under the Holt government in 1967, the investigation
must proceed.
You should probably go and play with your contradictions.
>
>> The Holt Government ministers at the time clearly have
>> a serious case to answer, Allen Fairhall, Minister for
>> Defence and Leslie Bury, Minister for Labour and
>> National Service.
>>
>> The former members of the relevant standing committee
>> of Cabinet, the Defence Preparations Committee should
>> also be summonsed before an appropriate Senate or Royal
>> Commission.
>>
>> "Later drafts were televised, with no possibility the
>> process could be manipulated."
>>
>> In 1967, Rowe had just returned from his second trip to
>> London, where he was trying for a breakthrough, and had
>> a string of Australian hits to his credit when he was
>> told he had been called up for two years' army service.
>>
>> He faced the news stoically, but it ended his pop dreams,
>> as he knew it would. Yet even for an ambitious singer,
>> it was a call to duty."
>>
>> He, like those Australian citizens who were falsely detained
>> in Howard's gulags, or deported, should have grounds to sue
>> for all his lost income, and damages for the unnecessary risks
>> that he might be killed.
>>
>> "There were many other young Australians who were apprentices
>> and tradesmen who'd done the same. I wasn't going to duck out
>> of national service if my number came up."
>>
>> So he served a year in Vietnam at the height of his fame.
>>
>> Years later, a chance encounter with a policeman born the
>> same day had Rowe wondering if something untoward had happened.
>>
>> Rowe still does not know how he came to be called up but some
>> see clues in the terrific publicity generated when Elvis Presley
>> was enlisted into the US army 10 years earlier."
>>
>> If that was the case is was not only an act of complete
>> tory bastardy, but also a criminal matter and an outrageous
>> abuse of power.
>>
>> The current government should set up an inquiry to determine who
>> was responsible and have charges of attempted murder brought
>> against them.
>>
>> "Rowe has just finished filming a yet-to-be-screened documentary,
>> The PM Is Missing, in which he plays the part of Harold Holt, who
>> disappeared while swimming at Cheviot Beach in December 1967.
>>
>> Holt, prime minister at the time of Rowe's recruitment to the
>> army, may have been one of the few people who could have solved
>> the mystery."
>>
>> Fortunately there are many more Liberal government ministers
>> who can be held to account.
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