"fasgnadh" wrote in message
news:482c3445$0$1026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Peter Webb wrote:
>>
>> "fasgnadh" wrote in message
>> news:482bfa89$0$13946$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>> Over the last few years we have grown accustomed to
>>> tory Governments acting more like Soviet apparatchiks,
>>> detaining and even deporting Australian citizens on entirely
>>> spurious grounds, but those human rights abuses pall into
>>> insignificance compared to the conspiracy to assassinate Normie
>>> Row by falsely drafting him and sending him into a war zone
>>> where he faced death.
>>>
>>> The last time I can recall someone attempting this was in the
>>> biblical story of King David, who, coveting Bathsheba, the wife
> >> of Uriah, arranges for a one-night stand in his luxurious suite,
> >> and when she falls pregnant, has Uriah sent to battle and
> >> ultimately killed and takes Bathsheba for his wife.
>
>>>
>>> "HE was Australia's most famous Vietnam conscript
>>> but it can now be revealed that pop idol Normie
>>> Rowe was falsely drafted into the army.
>>>
>>> And he should never have been sent to war."
>>> - Herald Sun 15/5/2008
>>>
>>> "The Department of Veterans' Affairs has this week
>>> confirmed that Rowe's birth date - February 1, 1947
>>> - was never raised in the controversial ballot of
>>> dates that selected which 20-year-old men would be
>>> called up to serve.
>>>
>>> Mystery surrounds how the nation's most high-profile
>>> pop singer could have been singled out for conscription.
>
> A mystery which Webb does nothing to clarify, although
> he does try and muddy the water so that those responsible for this
> outrageous abuse of state power go unquestioned and never be held
> to account! 8^o
>
>>> But the "ballot" that drafted Rowe was one of the last
>>> conducted behind closed doors."
>>>
>>
>> An interesting contradiction.
>
> Only to you, because you appear not to understand whats going on. B^D
>
>> The premise of the story is that Rowe's birthday was not one of the ones
>> selected by the ballot.
>
> What ballot?
>
> The assumption which you have made assumes there was one,
> but as it was a closed system you have no proof there was a ballot,
> they may simply have picked dates of birth of the young men courting
> their daughters. ;-)
>
Well, there was some process for selecting birth dates, but Rowe's birthday
was NOT selected by this process.
> Why do you always jump to confusions based on NO DATA! B^
>
Everybody acknowledges there was a birthdate ballot; indeed the days
selected have been available for years. Rowe found it by accident.
> What we do know is that Rowe's birthday was not the basis on which he was
> conscripted, and the voodoo that went on behind closed doors is not
> the issue, the ILLEGAL CONSCRIPTION IS!
>
> Why do you tories always aim for smoke and mirror obfuscation to
> cover up?
>
Well, no. Your contention makes no sense. How could the ballot have been
fixed but still not select Rowe's birthdate?
If I was trying to fix it so that Rowe was conscripted, I would do as you
imply - simply fix it so his birthday came up. But they obviously didn't fix
the ballot, because his birtday didn't come up.
The alternative - which obviously happened - was that his birthday didn't
come up in the ballot, and he was conscripted anyway. This is a much higher
risk strategy, as it only requies one other person to notice they had the
same birthdate as Rowe and wasn't conscripted, and the "fraud" is detected.
Its a wonder that it wasn't at the time or soon after - meeting somebody
with the same birthdate is not uncommon, and Rowe was a very public figure.
The only explanation I have heard that addresses this issue is the official
one, that non-residents were treated differently.
I actually don't believe this one either. Why should non-residents be
selected on the basis of different birthdates?
What I think may have happened is that Rowe did a deal in order to get
conscripted, seeing the success this had given to Elvis (and our Government
saw the boost this gave to the US Government). Like Presley, he was treated
as a regular grunt. The problem was of course that you couldn't volunteer
for conscription, so Rowe and the Government "bent" the rules to get him in.
Now Rowe is getting a little dotty and telling a different story, though you
notice that at no stage does he express the slightest regret or rancour
about what happened.
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