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Subject: Re: Suicidal Man Dives Into Woodchipper Posted on: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:59:16 -0600


"Wild Monkshood" wrote in message
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> Chocolic wrote:
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>> "Hell Toupee" wrote in message
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>>> http://www.twincities.com
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>>> He lingered near the wood chipper ... then he dove in
>>> Roseville work crew unable to stop apparent suicide attempt; man lives
>>>
>>> By Tad Vezner and Elizabeth Mohr
>>> 05/17/2008
>>>
>>> From 13 feet up, Josh Thompson saw the man coming, jogging, actually -
>>> and then, suddenly, breaking into a sprint.
>>>
>>> By the time the man dove arm-first into the massive tree chipper -
>>> meant to grind 21-inch-diameter trunks in a matter of seconds -
>>> Thompson had leapt to the ground. Frantically, he yanked on a safety
>>> lever, shutting the machine down.
>>>
>>> But it was bad: The man - who had been wandering uncomfortably close
>>> to the industrial-grade tree chipper for about 15 to 20 minutes - had
>>> his arm and shoulder pulled into the teeth of the machine.
>>>
>>> Heavy, block-shaped teeth - meant to grip and pull, rather than grind
>>> - were closing upon the man's head with 13,000 pounds of pressure. His
>>> hand may have reached the spinning grinders 3 feet inside.
>>>
>>> But he was alive.
>>>
>>> "A split-second later, and it would've been over. The rpm on that
>>> thing probably wouldn't drop half a point with a human body going
>>> through it," said Cory Groholski, vice president of Precision
>>> Landscape & Tree Inc.
>>>
>>> Groholski's crew was contracted to remove trees at 2611 Rice St. in
>>> Roseville when the Thursday afternoon incident took place.
>>>
>>> "If Josh would've taken his time, done the safe thing and stepped down
>>> the ladder, the guy would be gone. They (the crew) saved him, whether
>>> he wanted to be saved or not," Groholski said.
>>>
>>> Thompson, in the high seat of an adjacent log loader, was angling a
>>> massive log toward the chipper at the time, and dropped a good story
>>> before landing upon the side of the 9-foot-tall wood chipper.
>>>
>>> Two other crewmembers pulled the man out. A fourth called 911. Though
>>> the man's right arm, shoulder and chest area were badly mangled, there
>>> was hardly any blood, the workers noted with surprise.
>>>
>>> They told the man to relax. He appeared to, saying not a word, his
>>> eyes rolling back and forth.
>>>
>>> "It bothers us a lot. That was our last piece for the day. Fifteen
>>> seconds more, and we would have been out of there," Groholski said.
>>>
>>> Crew members - including Groholski, who left the site just minutes
>>> before the incident happened - had yelled at the man several times to
>>> stay back. They thought he was an employee at a nearby hardware store,
>>> just getting off his shift.
>>>
>>> "He looked kind of mopey, head down. I yelled at him to stay back
>>> once. He said, 'OK,' and walked away," Groholski said.
>>>
>>> "He looked like he was contemplating before he did it," said witness
>>> Jerel Payne, who lives besides the land where the trees were being cut
>>> down.
>>>
>>> Payne described the man as white, 5-feet-11 to 6-feet tall, slim, with
>>> scraggly brown hair. "He just looked like an ordinary guy," Payne
>>> said.
>>>
>>> Until he dove.
>>>
>>> "Have you seen the movie 'Fargo'?" Payne asked, referring to the 1996
>>> movie with an infamous wood chipper murder scene. "I saw his feet in
>>> the air. That's something you would never imagine happening. ... His
>>> arm was dangling; his guts were hanging out; his head was cut up."
>>>
>>> "There is no way on earth to prevent that kind of intentional entry
>>> into the machine," said Ivan Brand, senior technical coordinator for
>>> product safety for Vermeer Corp., which makes the BC2100 industrial
>>> chipper, the model at the scene.
>>>
>>> Police said it was clear the 20-year-old Roseville man was attempting
>>> suicide. They would not identify him.
>>>
>>> "It's a medical situation, and we feel that information is protected
>>> under data privacy," said Roseville police Lt. Lorne Rosand.
>>>
>>> Some media reports say the man lived nearby, but Rosand would not
>>> confirm or deny that.
>>>
>>> Employees at a business across the street from the scene said the
>>> man's torso and head appeared to be entirely wrapped in gauze as he
>>> was placed into the ambulance.
>>>
>>> The man was taken to Regions Hospital. Rosand was unsure whether the
>>> man would survive and was unable to report his condition Friday.
>>>
>>> Suicide by wood chipper is not unheard of. In 2001, a 43-year-old
>>> Canadian woman left a four-page suicide note before throwing herself
>>> into a wood chipper on her family's acreage near Ottawa. She died. In
>>> 2000, a Phoenix man killed himself with a wood chipper, and tried to
>>> drag his fiancee in with him. The fiancee survived.
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>> Holy crap. If I were to suicide, I'd want to do it peacefully and as
>> *painlessly* as possible.
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> In an enlightened society, he could have been evaluated at a certified
> euthanasia center. If warranted, he could have been "relaxed" to death,
> much like the process we reserve for the most egregious behavior in our
> society.

Amerikkkans have their collective heads up their asses. Ignorance
and fear being the primary causes ...

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>> Chocolic
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