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Princeandy wrote:
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>Not one of the bright jews are you?
There aren't any "bright" deniers.
>Did you understand anything that has been said?
>
>Again just for you seeing you appear to be mentally challenged?
See below.
>Are we going to see a witch hunt of red cross personnel because their
>records of WW2 from offices in the centre of Auswitch etc, the doling out of
>parcels to prisoners in Germany and Russia just do not record any gassing.
That is because the Red Cross was never permitted access to any NAZI
extermination facilities.
It would be much like you visiting Harrods to pass out parcels while
people were being murdered in Greenwich - you wouldn't have a clue... come
to think of it, you don't have a clue NOW.
Prior to making a choice to humiliate yourself yet again, you might want
to read what the Red Cross has to offer on the subject of which you have
shown such abysmal ignorance:
http://www.icrc.ch/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList418/359CC4EF8A1E5C72C1256B66005B2171
"Under Hitler's regime, Jews were deprived of all their rights and
dispossessed of their property, packed into overcrowded ghettos, forced to
wear a yellow star and subjected to countless forms of humiliation and
brutality, to deportation and massacres. During the war, the number of
roundups increased and Jews were systematically deported to concentration
and extermination camps, cut off completely from the outside world.
In December 1939, the President of the International Committee of the Red
Cross (ICRC) approached the German Red Cross to arrange for ICRC delegates
to visit the Jews from Vienna who had been deported to Poland. He met with
a refusal, as the German authorities did not under any circumstances want
to enter into a discussion on the fate of these people.
From then on, the ICRC opted for a strategy of no longer addressing the
question of Jews directly -- it did so only in general approaches
concerning the victims of mass arrests or deportation, and then it made no
reference to their religious affiliation or racial origins, although it
was clear that the people in question were, for the most part, Jews.
On 29 April 1942, the German Red Cross informed the ICRC that it would
not communicate any information on "non-Aryan" detainees, and asked it to
refrain from asking questions about them."
...
"A year later, the ICRC obtained authorization from the German Ministry of
Foreign Affairs to send food parcels to internees in the concentration
camps whose whereabouts it knew of. It had details concerning about 50
deportees, to each of whom it sent a parcel, and during the summer it
received acknowledgements of receipt countersigned by the addressees. The
ICRC subsequently managed to find out where other deportees were interned
and it expanded its parcel-sending operation. By 1 March 1945, the ICRC
had details on about 56,000 deportees, and by the end of the hostilities,
105,000. From the summer of 1944 onwards, the organization supplemented
its individual parcels with collective shipments. In total, up to May 1945
it sent over 122,000 parcels to the concentration camps. But this
operation did not succeed in reaching those deportees who were subjected
to the harshest regime, nor did it give captives any protection from
torture or massacres. The International Committee of the Red Cross thus
continued its approaches to the German authorities, in order to visit the
concentration camps. These approaches met with a categorical refusal. "
Poor, stupid "Andy."
>And in fact they and witnesses say there was never any gassing as forensics
>after the war proved. Also that gtthere was never any burning of bodies or
>burying of them in the numbers claimed by the reparation chasers.
Please cite the witnesses and forensics tests which proved there were no
gassings.
>There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was
> in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed."
> (See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred
> Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is
> likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were
> killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions.
Gee, it's interesting to note that Germany's leading Holocaust experts, at
the IFZ, not only confirm the existence of the gas chamber at Dachau, but
not its use.
(The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe is considered an authority on
this issue in Germany, and has been used as a source of
information on the Holocaust in various trials of Nazi war
criminals there.)
The following extermination camps existed:
Kulmhof i.e. Chelmno (in the then Wartheland), where between December
1941 and fall 1942 and again from May until August 1944 gassings by
means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas took place. Altogether
more than 150,000 Jews as well as 5000 gypsies have hereby been killed.
Belzec (in the district Lublin of the then general governments): from
march to December 1942 in the beginning in three, later in six large gas
chambers by means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas altogether
about 600,000 Jews were killed here.
Sobibor (district Lublin, general government) received in April 1942
three, later in September 1942 six gas chambers and until October 1943
it was "in operation". During this period at least 200,000 Jews have
been murdered through carbon monoxide gas.
Treblinka (district Warschau, general government) from the end of July
1942 on had three gas chambers and received at the start of September 1942
furthermore ten larger gas chambers. Up to the dissolution of the camp in
November 1943 altogether 700,000 Jews were killed here by carbon monoxide.
Majdanek (district Lublin, general government): The concentration camp
existing since September 1941 turned into an extermination camp when between
April 1942 and November 1943 mass shootings took place to which 24,000 Jews
fell victim. In October 1942 also two, later three gas chambers were built.
In the beginning the killings in these were done by means of carbon monoxide, soon however one was using Zyklon B (a highly poisonous insecticide made
from cyan hydrogen). Up until the dissolution of the camp in March 1944
about 50,000 Jews have been gassed.
Auschwitz-Birkenau (in the formerly polish, in 1939 adjoined to the "Reich"
upper eastern Silesian area, south eastern of Kattowitz): The extermination
camp in Birkenau, established in the second half of 1941, was joined to
the concentration camp Auschwitz, existing since May 1940. From January
1942 on in five gas chambers and from the end of June 1943 in four
additional large gassing-rooms gassings with Zyklon B have been
undertaken. Up until November 1944 more than one million Jews and at least
4000 gypsies have been murdered by gas.
In the following concentration camps gas chambers were established and have
gone into operation:
Mauthausen (upper Austria): From fall 1941 on one gas chamber existed which
was operated with Zyklon B. In addition, gassings with carbon monoxide took
place through gas vans which were driven between Mauthausen and it's
side-camp Gusen. Altogether more than 4000 have been killed here through gas.
Neuengamme (southeastern of Hamburg): From fall of 1942 on gassings with
Zyklon B were undertaken here in a "Bunker" prepared for that, about 450
victims.
Sachsenhausen (Province Brandenburg, north of Berlin) received mid March
1943 a gas chamber which was operated with Zyklon B. Several thousand
people fell victim to the gassings, a more specific number cannot be
determined.
Natzweiler (by Struthof, Elsass): From August 1943 to August 1944 a gas
chamber existed here in which between 120 and 200 people were killed through
Zyklon B in order to be able to dissect their skeletons for the Anatomica
Institute of University of Strassburg. Back then this institute was managed
by a chief company commander of SS Prof. Dr. August Hirt.
Stutthof (east of Danzig) had from June 1944 on one gas chamber in which
more than 1000 were killed by Zyklon B.
Ravensbruck (Bradenburg, north of Berlin): Here still in January
1945 a gas chamber was established; the number of the people killed
in it was at least 2300.
DACHAU (Upper Bavaria, northeast of Munich): During the establishment of
a new house of cremation in 1942 also a gas chamber was established in it
in which in connection with the medical experiments of the chief company
commander of SS Dr. Rascher also a few experimental gassings were undertaken,
as more recent research has confirmed. (On that see Gunther Kimmel:
The Concentration Camp Dachau. A study of the Nazi crimes of violence in
Bavaria in the NS-time II, edited by Martin Broszat and Elke Froehlich,
Munich, R. Oldenburg Press, 1979, P. 391.) Larger gassing operations
have not taken place in Dachau.
The above mentioned numbers of the people killed in the gas chambers of
the individual camps are only approximations. They also only refer to the
people killed in gassing operations. The number of the Jews killed in
Europe due to the effects of the Nazi tyranny amounts, according to the
newest research to at least 5.29 million. Possibly, however, also more
than six million.
=30=
It would seem that Germany's leading experts know far more of the subject
than you do. Gosh, there's a surprise.
> This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after
> the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked
> with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do
> not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used
> by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau
> concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber
> used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For
> several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep
> alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)
See above.
Poor, stupid Andy.
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