On 22 Mar 2006 11:29:04 -0800, "Zerge" wrote:
>
>Tuco wrote:
>> wrote in message
>> news:1143053456.168852.281480@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > perryneheum@... wrote:
>> > > A noted economist points out that most of the 11 million illegals in
>> > > the United States bring few skills, poor or no education,
>> > > backward-religous-based culture, and inability to contribute to or
>> > > interest in advancing our society and culture.
>> >
>> > Duh! These are lumpenproletariats for the most part. The middle class
>> > professionals are largely staying in Mexico. And apparently your
>> > lumpenproletariats are unable to compete with them.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Moreover, unlike the talented, multi-degreed, highly skilled immigrants
>> > > from places like Japan, China, India, and Taiwan -- people who can make
>> > > a difference here -- Latinos (mostly Mex's) present much more of a
>> > > burden to the U.S. than they can ever offset by their
>> > > ability/willingness to pick, pluck, paint, and plaster farm stuff and
>> > > other things.
>> >
>> > Then don't offer them those jobs.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Additionally, children of Mexicans and other south-of-the-border types
>> > > are seldom imbued by their guardians with professional and educational
>> > > ambitions. Many seem more interested in joining and forming violent
>> > > gangs.
>> >
>> > Duh! These are lumpeproletariats! Your own lumpenproletariats are not
>> > going around discussing Nietzche either!
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Bottom Line: They bring no added value to our country.
>> > >
>> > > Solution: Ship 'em back, keep the rest out at any cost. It will be
>> > > well worth the price we might pay.
>> >
>> > Except that folks like you have no say in the matter. Your government
>> > is of the plutocrats, by the plutocrats, and for the plutocrats. How
>> > stoopid can you get, expecting it to listen to you all?
>>
>> The plutocrats listened when they tried to force the Dubai ports deal down
>> America's throat.
>
>No, that was a case of plutocrats vs. plutocrats. And well, the
>plutocrats won, and lost! :)
The deal was stopped because We The Plebes got upset. In fact it was a
absolutely classic case of that, hasn't seen it for a while.
It's called Popular Politics, something that used to rule America in
the 20th Century.
The Illegals & Immigration issue involves a lot more money for a lot
more people than that deal did, so We The Plebes haven't gotten our
way yet. The Plebes are ultimately the people who can say what goes
and what doesn't, it's just a Newtonian matter. The Plebian ball has
to have a lot of mass x velocity, be given enough inertia to knock
that big ball of money off the course they sent it. Marx talked about
this, one of the things he was right about. Very difficult thing in
the Immigration Issue however, very great deal of inertia required,
but the Dubia ports deal, that was a gimme. Nothing to do with
Plutocrat vs Plutocrat. Left to themselves, they would agree to buy
and sell anything, who the hell among them cares about nations and
ownership of ports, so long as they get sufficient gardeners?
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