hajina@zappo.com wrote:
> Let us say that they all got amnesty next week. How are they going to
> be given legit documents, papers, etc?
>
> As US citizens, they might choose not to join Unions - and they would
> definitely be drafted if the draft is reinstated. How many would
> leave if that happened?
>
>
> On Apr 24, 10:58 am, "-=Deporter=-" wrote:
>
>> The Tan Klan and the Aztlanista's might go wild over this. Keep your powder dry........
>>
>> Economy May Force Obama to Abandon Plan to Overhaul Immigration
>>
>> By Nicholas Johnston
>>
>> April 24, 2009 (Bloomberg) -- The long campaign to overhaul U.S. immigration laws may be
>> derailed for yet another year -- this time by the deteriorating economy.
>>
>> Lawmakers, lobbyists and advocates on both sides of the issue said the highest
>> unemployment rate in more than 25 years would make it difficult for President Barack Obama
>> to push legislation that would legalize millions of immigrants in the country illegally
>> and create a new guest-worker program.
>>
>> "The debate has changed," said Senator Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Republican who opposed
>> immigration legislation when it was last considered in 2007. "I don't think it's going to
>> be a pleasant discussion because the American people won't be happy about it."
>>
>> This month, White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs said Obama would soon introduce new plans
>> for overhauling immigration, a legislative priority for companies such as chipmaker Intel
>> Corp., hotel-chain Marriott International Inc. and Western Union Co., the world's biggest
>> money-transfer business.
>>
>> In Mexico City last week, Obama, 47, said he remains "committed to fixing our broken
>> immigration system," and a Senate committee has announced it will begin hearings on the
>> issue next week. Still, ...xelrod, a senior White House adviser, said the president
>> may not be able to make good on his promise to sign legislation within his first year in
>> office.
>>
>> 'Committed' to It
>>
>> "We're committed to beginning that discussion this year," Axelrod said in an interview
>> last week. "Whether we complete that this year is another question."
>>
>> Obama's predecessor, President George W. Bush, abandoned a push for a comprehensive plan
>> in his first term after the Sept. 11 attacks raised concerns over border security. A
>> proposal he initiated in his second term was killed by Congress in 2007, even though it
>> was supported by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the largest U.S. business lobbying
>> organization. The group said it would support renewed efforts this year.
>>
>> "We are cautiously optimistic," said Angelo Amador, the chamber's director of immigration
>> policy.
>>
>> Technology companies such as Santa Clara, California-based Intel are pressing for an
>> increase in H1-B visas for highly skilled workers, such as computer engineers. Englewood,
>> Colorado-based Western Union and Bethesda, Maryland-based Marriott have joined a new
>> advocacy group, ImmigrationWorks USA, to push for legislation.
>>
>> 'Going to Do It'
>>
>> "The president is talking about it and he's going to do it," said Tamar Jacoby, the
>> Washington-based group's president.
>>
>> Yet Rogan Kersh, an associate dean at New York University's Wagner School of Public
>> Service, said a new immigration proposal could be a particularly hard sell with the public
>> and lawmakers of both parties after the jobless rate rose to 8.5 percent last month, the
>> highest in more than 25 years.
>>
>> "Rising unemployment rates, coupled with continuing dismal economic news, are battering
>> the public's inclination to back a change in illegal immigrants' status, which was never
>> that strong to begin with," said Kersh.
>>
>> Jennifer Verdery, director of workforce policy for Intel, agreed that the economy may
>> delay action.
>>
>> "It's clear that immigration reform is something that has been put on the back burner,"
>> she said.
>>
>> Opponents have seized on the unemployment numbers. Immigration-legislation proponents "are
>> going to have to be faced with the argument that I and many others are making: Illegals
>> are taking jobs Americans now want," said Representative Steve King, an Iowa Republican
>> who opposed the previous immigration measure.
>>
>> Difficult Conditions
>>
>> Nonetheless, Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, said he was undeterred by
>> "these difficult economic conditions" and would press ahead with hearings this month in
>> the Senate's Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security, which he chairs.
>>
>> "There is a real chance of passing comprehensive reform this year," said Schumer, 58.
>>
>> Two years ago, opposition focused on two parts of the measure that would likely be
>> included in any new proposal: a path to legal citizenship for 12 million illegal
>> immigrants, and a new guest-worker program to allow hundreds of thousands of immigrants
>> into the U.S. each year to fill low-paying jobs.
>>
>> Even supporters of the earlier immigration proposal said attempts by Congress to take up
>> those provisions again will meet even greater resistance this time.
>>
>> Guest Workers
>>
>> "Obviously, anytime you have difficult economic times it's difficult to conjure up
>> creating a guest-worker program," said Senator Mel Martinez, 62, a Florida Republican who
>> backed the 2007 measure.
>>
>> The earlier legislative proposal would have granted visas to as many as 200,000 temporary
>> workers each year. Instead of specific limits in new legislation, labor groups are
>> pressing for the creation of a commission to decide how many temporary and foreign workers
>> should be allowed in, the AFL-CIO and Change to Win, which represent 17 million union
>> members, announced April 14.
>>
>> "The labor movement will speak in one voice," AFL-CIO President John Sweeney said.
>>
>> Rising unemployment already has led Congress to curb immigration. The economic stimulus
>> bill approved in February included a provision to restrict the hiring of immigrants under
>> the H1-B skilled-worker visa program by companies that have received government bailout
>> funds such as JPMorgan Chase & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc., all based
>> in New York.
>>
>> In addition to seeking to limit inflows of foreign workers, King, 60, said opponents would
>> try to block efforts to legalize the estimated 12 million immigrants in the country
>> illegally.
>>
>> The 2007 proposal required illegal immigrants to pay fines and back taxes and become
>> proficient in English before applying for legal status. Opponents decried it as an
>> "amnesty" for lawbreakers, and King said they would do so again.
>>
>> "To push an amnesty plan in the middle of this economic environment I would have said a
>> year ago is the height of irresponsibility, but there have been so many irresponsible
>> things since then I don't know how to actually describe it," King said.
>>
>> ###
>>
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>>
> They would just come back when it was over and bring 100 million more with them
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