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Subject: Re: I note that no one is mentioning Jim Bates this morning! Posted on: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC)

On Mar 12, 1:23=A0pm, The Todal wrote:
> lisabar...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Mar 12, 12:07 pm, Ian wrote:
> >> On 12 Mar, 11:54, The Todal wrote:
>
> >>> I'm afraid I find you to be what the lawyers call "an unreliable
> >>> historian", meaning that even if you are trying hard to be accurate it=

> >>> would be unwise to believe you unless you can corroborate your stateme=
nts.
> >> I think we also have to ask how her uncorroborated statements here
> >> differ from those we might expect from a woman in deep denial.
>
> >> Ian
>
> > Interesting answers peps.
>
> > No denial here. =A0Oh and yes, I am by occupation an historian.
>
> And so is David Irving.
>
> > It is not my role in life to explain things to the public that either
> > they can not understand or choose not to understand
>
> It isn't my role in life to struggle to understand the points you are
> making, when you explain yourself badly.
>
> - in other words,
>
> > be in denial about.
>
> Don't use psychiatric jargon inappropriately. =A0You can be in denial
> about being abused. You can't be in denial about false convictions.
>
> > =A0The numbers of people falsely convicted in the UK
> > is alarmingly high.
>
> Statistics, please.
>
> =A0 We have a government that clicks it's heels at
>
> > the feet of the tabloids, which cater to the lowest common
> > denominator. =A0The lowest common denominator believes this is all about=

> > child protection- which all would agree is a good thing. =A0But the
> > number of children damaged through this illegal
>
> Don't use legal jargon inappropriately.
>
> > and ill founded
> > exercise is higher than the number protected. =A0As I have said on
> > television, "I can not think of a single child better off because of
> > operation ore. =A0The real question that has to be answered, is what was=

> > the REAL objective?
>
> You've been on television? =A0Like the man with three buttocks, then, who
> has been on Persian Radio and the Forces Network.

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(form an orderly queue to the right for the groveling apologies)
TC