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On 22 Mar, 18:24, "Ivan" wrote:
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> >>> On 22 Mar, 12:12, "Ivan" wrote:
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> >>>> I grew up in a pretty rough postwar inner city area and attended a
> >>>> boys
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> >>>> Secondary Modern school which was staffed by mainly (Welsh)
> >>>> ex-military
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> >>>> teachers who maintained an iron discipline.
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> >>> Yes your perfect classroom world chucked out such
> >>> delights as the Krays and Myra Hindley.
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> >>> Take you nostalgic rose coloured specs off.
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> >> LOL and of course in the last 50 odd years things have got oh so much
> >> better! and besides nowhere did I say life back then was perfect,
> >> however
> >> I don't think I'm in a minority in believing that since discipline was
> >> totally abandoned in favour of the soft options approach things in our
> >> schools haven't exactly improved, I mean can you name one school in the
> >> UK back then which had to install metal detectors to find out if kids
> >> were carrying guns or knives?
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> > In those days the teachers beat the shit out of kids. Bullied and caned
> > them all daily. The outcome was supressed violence in kids who as soon
> > as
> > they could hit back at the system via their own kids in the late
> > 60's.
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> > You reap what you sow.
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> You mean as in what's happening now as the end result of > 50 years of
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As was said you reap what you sow. The 'beardy weirdies' were trying
to put right the damage done.
Damage can't of course always be totally undone. Sometimes it can
never be undone.
Still I suppose plenty of prozzies did ok out of it advertising their
spanking services to cater for the aftermath of the 50's 'education'.
As they found out the hard way you cannot beat education into children
nor does caning children make them behave. It just makes them careful
not to get caught.
I'm not being totally negative about the brave new postwar world, as there
were social injustices inflicted onto ordinary people that needed changing
and for which the country is in many ways doubtless a better place for them
having been done.
However that being said there is always a very good case to be made for at
least 'attempting' not to throw the the baby out with the bathwater.
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