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Subject: Re: Arthur C Clarke Posted on: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:37:02 +0000 (UTC)

On Mar 24, 4:37=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> In message
> <80bbf0f5-527b-47f6-9f2c-2e8afb2ff...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Holly writes
>
>
>
>
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> >On Mar 22, 3:47=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> >> In message
> >> ,
> >> Holly writes
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> >> >On Mar 20, 10:39=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> >> >> In message
> >> >> <8e0240bb-4f7f-468f-9ebf-081ab04db...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> "MAOgil...@indaal.co.uk" writes
>
> >> >> >On 19 Mar, 08:30, Gary B wrote:
> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3681938.stm
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> >> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C_Clarke
>
> >> >> >> Yes! Another child molster is dead :-)))))
>
> >> >> >There's a world of difference between molesting children and having=

> >> >> >. with nubile boys who happen to be below the age of British
> >> >> >consent. Here on the island we've always taken the view that
> >> >> >everything that doesn't belong to the Laird is fair game.
>
> >> >> It seems that Brits are generally so certain that their own assessme=
nt
> >> >> of an appropriate age of consent is the only possible correct one, t=
hat
> >> >> any country having a lower age of consent is therefore populated by =
a
> >> >> bunch of child molesting perverts. What I don't understand is why we=

> >> >> would allow countries full of perverted child molesters such as Fran=
ce
> >> >> (15) or Spain (13) to be members of the EU!
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike_B
>
> >> >No ... Not France.
>
> >> Sorry, I have no idea what that meant.
>
> >> --
> >It means, I do not wish that to apply to France.
>
> I see. Then you would have to persuade France to raise their age of
> consent then. As it stands, it is 15 and as everyone in this country
> knows, if you sleep with a 15 year old you must be a pervert and should
> be locked away.
>
> I also wonder whether it works the other way around. So if someone from
> say Egypt (18) or Tunisia (20) comes to the UK and sleeps with a 16 year
> old, does that make them a pervert even though they have done nothing
> that is illegal here?
> --


Dear MIke,

I have copied for you these definitions. I hope they help.

pervert (v.)
c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief
to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere
"corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere
"to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced
native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested
from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as
true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of
the .ual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis),
originally esp. of homo.uals. Perv, short for .ual pervert (n.),
is first recorded 1944.
perverse
c.1369, "wicked," from O.Fr. pervers, from L. perversus "turned away
(from what is right), contrary, askew," pp. of pervertere "to
corrupt" (see pervert). The L. word is glossed in O.E. by forcerred,
from p.p. of forcyrran "to avoid," from cierran "to turn, return."
Meaning "wrong, not in accord with what is accepted" is from c.1568;
sense of "obstinate, stubborn" is from 1579. It keeps the non-.ual
senses of pervert (v.) and allows the psychological ones to go with
perverted.

"Perversions are defined as unnatural acts, acts contrary to nature,
bestial, abominable, and detestable. Such laws are interpretable only
in accordance with the ancient tradition of the English common law
which ... is committed to the doctrine that no .ual activity is
justifiable unless its objective is procreation." [A.C. Kinsey,
et.al., ".ual Behavior in the Human Male," 1948]


Best wishes,
Holly