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Subject: Re: Arthur C Clarke Posted on: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:20:12 +0000 (UTC)

On Mar 25, 3:35=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> In message
> <88801bbf-6552-4e3e-846c-3782718a4...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Holly writes
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 24, 4:37=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> >> In message
> >> <80bbf0f5-527b-47f6-9f2c-2e8afb2ff...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Holly writes
>
> >> >On Mar 22, 3:47=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> >> >> In message
> >> >> ,=

> >> >> Holly writes
>
> >> >> >On Mar 20, 10:39=A0am, Mike_B wrote:
> >> >> >> In message
> >> >> >> <8e0240bb-4f7f-468f-9ebf-081ab04db...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com=
>,
> >> >> >> "MAOgil...@indaal.co.uk" writes
>
> >> >> >> >On 19 Mar, 08:30, Gary B wrote:
> >> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3681938.stm
>
> >> >> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C_Clarke
>
> >> >> >> >> Yes! Another child molster is dead :-)))))
>
> >> >> >> >There's a world of difference between molesting children and hav=
ing
> >> >> >> >. with nubile boys who happen to be below the age of British
> >> >> >> >consent. Here on the island we've always taken the view that
> >> >> >> >everything that doesn't belong to the Laird is fair game.
>
> >> >> >> It seems that Brits are generally so certain that their own asses=
sment
> >> >> >> of an appropriate age of consent is the only possible correct one=
, that
> >> >> >> any country having a lower age of consent is therefore populated =
by a
> >> >> >> bunch of child molesting perverts. What I don't understand is why=
we
> >> >> >> would allow countries full of perverted child molesters such as F=
rance
> >> >> >> (15) or Spain (13) to be members of the EU!
>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mike_B
>
> >> >> >No ... Not France.
>
> >> >> Sorry, I have no idea what that meant.
>
> >> >> --
> >> >It means, I do not wish that to apply to France.
>
> >> I see. Then you would have to persuade France to raise their age of
> >> consent then. As it stands, it is 15 and as everyone in this country
> >> knows, if you sleep with a 15 year old you must be a pervert and should=

> >> be locked away.
>
> >> I also wonder whether it works the other way around. So if someone from=

> >> say Egypt (18) or Tunisia (20) comes to the UK and sleeps with a 16 yea=
r
> >> old, does that make them a pervert even though they have done nothing
> >> that is illegal here?
> >> --
>
> >Dear MIke,
>
> >I have copied for you these definitions. I hope they help.
>
> >pervert (v.)
> >c.1300 (trans.), "to turn someone aside from a right religious belief
> >to a false or erroneous one," from O.Fr. pervertir, from L. pervertere
> >"corrupt, turn the wrong way, turn about," from per- "away" + vertere
> >"to turn" (see versus). The noun is 1661, from the verb. Replaced
> >native froward, which embodies the same image. The noun is attested
> >from 1661, "one who has forsaken a doctrine or system regarded as
> >true, apostate;" psychological sense of "one who has a perversion of
> >the .ual instinct" is attested from 1897 (Havelock Ellis),
> >originally esp. of homo.uals. Perv, short for .ual pervert (n.),
> >is first recorded 1944.
> >perverse
> >c.1369, "wicked," from O.Fr. pervers, from L. perversus "turned away
> >(from what is right), contrary, askew," pp. of pervertere "to
> >corrupt" (see pervert). The L. word is glossed in O.E. by forcerred,
> >from p.p. of forcyrran "to avoid," from cierran "to turn, return."
> >Meaning "wrong, not in accord with what is accepted" is from c.1568;
> >sense of "obstinate, stubborn" is from 1579. It keeps the non-.ual
> >senses of pervert (v.) and allows the psychological ones to go with
> >perverted.
>
> >"Perversions are defined as unnatural acts, acts contrary to nature,
> >bestial, abominable, and detestable. Such laws are interpretable only
> >in accordance with the ancient tradition of the English common law
> >which ... is committed to the doctrine that no .ual activity is
> >justifiable unless its objective is procreation." [A.C. Kinsey,
> >et.al., ".ual Behavior in the Human Male," 1948]
>
> >Best wishes,
> >Holly
>
> Thanks Holly. So we are all perverts if we have . without intending
> procreation. That's really helpful I'm sure.
>
> --

Sadly, Mike, my grandmother believed that. She bore 9 children and
died at fifty.