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Subject: Re: Innocent Download of kp Posted on: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:09:09 GMT

Dissenter wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:38:37 GMT, Palindrome wrote:
>
>> Cynic wrote:
>>
>>> Though I suspect that like most people, you will only claim that there
>>> is a causal relationship if the direction fits the result you would
>>> like.
>
>> Of course. But, in this case I don't have a particular result in mind.
>> Ban it or put it on the shelves in WH Smith? Lacking evidence one way
>> or the other, I have no good reason to argue that HMG's approach is
>> right or wrong, other than the underlying principle about obeying the law.
>
> Do you usually kow-tow to the government, or only when it suits you?

The kp law doesn't affect me, either way - so either way would suit me.
>
>> Part of it is what great harm is done by having such a law? The loss
>> seems a very tiny one.
>
> About as tiny as banning jazz, or Wagner, or any other minority
> interest you could consider.

I am banned from pursuing several of my interests whilst in the UK. It
annoys me - but no way would I break the laws that apply. I had no
difficulty finding replacement pursuits. There is always more things to
do than time to do them.

>
>> For those that choose to break the law, the penalties can be very great.
>> But everyone must know this, by now.
>
> I suppose if the government jailed people for stepping on the cracks
> in the pavement you would support that.

Never mind the cracks - the police can ban you from stepping anywhere on
any part of the pavement they choose to designate. But it is a lot more
annoying to have to fly without a Swiss Army penknife.

>
>> There are others in society in an even more difficult situation, through
>> absolutely no fault of their own. If there is to be any priority for
>> getting change, it should be to help them.
>
> It would be very easy to repeal the laws against child .. Much
> easier than remedying things like poverty.
>
I'd start with the terrorist acts. Detention without charge. DNA held on
the innocent. ROA. . law. Doing anything about kp would be very,
very, far down my list. If it helps, the laws affecting my own pursuits
would be even lower down the list..


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Sue