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Re: ID cards, my personal view Posted on: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:03:19 +0000 (UTC)


"James Hammerton" wrote in message
news:64tbb8F2dh47aU1@mid.individual.net...
> TD wrote:
>> "count zero" wrote in message
>> news:f1ebefdd-ea47-4047-8fb0-fb2f80e67a01@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> At present we have people signing on in more than one place using
>>> alias. We need a biometric card with a unique encryption. I also think
>>> credit cards should carry photographs.
>>
>> "there are no plans at this stage to make the delivery of particular
>> public services dependent on the production of an identity card" - Meg
>> Hillier (Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Identity, Home Office), 25 Feb
>> 2008
>
> Cue making them dependent on being registered on the NIR instead... You
> have the option of presenting the NIRN (to be checked against the NIR),
> ergo no need to actually produce the card!
>
> Also the fact that there were no plans on the 25th doesn't mean that
> remained the case on the 26th.
>
> My point being that the quotations from members of the government need to
> be read as narrowly and as literally as possible in order to see all the
> get out clauses they've left open for themselves...
>
> James

Sure, and let's face it they can always lie and then say they "misspoke".

My point was more about the honesty of the sales pitch Count Zero has fallen
for, eg:


The National Identity Scheme will provide an easy and reliable way for
people to prove their identity and thereby their entitlement to services and
benefits. The systems that deliver services and benefits are currently open
to abuse and the Department for Work and Pensions estimates that between £20
million and £50 million of identity-related benefit fraud is committed each
year in the UK. ...
The ID card will eventually replace the range of documents currently used
for this purpose, making life simpler both for claimants and those
responsible for checking their claims.



Peculiar how it will do that if there are no plans.

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