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>>>>> Did Federal Drug Laws not apply to the Felonies in question?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not established they were felonies,
>>>
>>> Do tell how one can conspire to purchase/possess cocaine
>>> without committing a felony.
>>>
>>
>> He admitted to using cocaine. Someone comes up to you at a party,
>> asks if you want some - that's happened to me. They're offering to
>> share their drugs.
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> Conspiracy to distribute/possess
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>
>> No need to conspire, to purchase, to possess.
>
> If there is an offer, agreement and acceptance to engage in criminal
> activity, and an overt act in furtherance of that crime, you have
> conspiracy. Ipso facto
Sure, but it must be the same criminal act. If I buy drugs, I'm not
conspiring with a drug dealer to distribute drugs. I'm using (possibly
on my own), and he's selling (and not with me; I'm buying)
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> That you don't know basic criminal law doesn't change that fact..
>
>
>> If you're inclined, you step in to the bathroom or wherever, you
>> snort it up. Or smoke it, whatever.
>>
>>>> and it is possible federal charges didn't apply.
>>>
>>> Please do tell how one can purchase, possess and/or use cocaine
>>> in the U$A without violating Federal Felony laws.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not an attorney,
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> Nor are you aware of basic criminal law.
>
>> but I understand some drug use can violate state laws without
>> touching federal laws.
>
> So tell us how obtaining, purchasing, possessing and/or using
> cocaine in the USA as David Patterson confessed to did not
> violate Federal Drug laws.
I can't find use prohibited in the USC, which concerns itself with
manufacture, importation, and distribution. Can you point me to title
and section?
>> Federal law is based on the interstate commerce clause, so if you
>> merely use what someone offers you, no commerce involved.
>
> If only your ignorance were reality.
>
> Supreme Court allows prosecution of medical marijuana
But that's manufacture.
>>>>> Did David Patterson state he conspired, purchased, obtained and
>>>>> used cocaine in New York, or is that another one of Larry's
>>>>> classic strawmen ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, Patterson stated he used.
>>>
>>> So where and how did he obtain the cocaine he used?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know, and neither do you.
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> The point being he obtained it from someone, unless you're asserting
> he grew coca and processed his own cocaine all outside the
> jurisdiction of the U$A.
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>> People offer drugs, it happens. I've had it happen many times.
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> And offering/accepting illegal drugs IS distribution, numbnuts.
>
> What part don't you conprehend?
>
>>
>>>>I've had people offer me drugs - for free -
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>>> Conspiracy to Distrubute/Possess.
>>
>> Nope.
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> Yep.
>
>> No conspiracy.
>
> Yep, if you agree and accept their offer.
I don't believe this is correct. You have to be in concert for there to
be a conspiracy. One person is buying and one is selling. These are
separate crimes.
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>> No distribution.
>
> Yep, if you accept the drugs.
Distribution is giving drugs to another person. You're not distributing
drugs if you're merely using them. Your dealer may be.
>>No possession,
>
> ROTFLMAO!
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>> Someone hands you the mirror, you partake
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> Possession, dipshit.
>
>> (or don't).
>
> If you don't agree or accept the cocaine.
>
>> No possession.
>
> Wrong again.
>
>> No distribution.
>
> And wrong again.
>
>> No conspiracy.
>
> Were you born stupid, or did drug abuse make you stupid?
Could you point us to the statutes on distribution?
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>> Really, is this concept beyond your comprehension?!?
>
> Tell it to the judge/jury, moron.
Since you can't take drugs in cyberspace, can you point us to the
statutes?
>>>> at parties and in nightclubs and bars. ( When you turn 'em down
>>>> they think you must be a cop. ) No purchase,
>>>
>>> Irrelevant, it's still distribution.
>>>
>>
>> The person who gives it to you *might* meet the test of distribution
>> (though I doubt it).
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> Your "doubts" about the reality of law will get you 5-10.
>
>> The recipient does not.
>>
>>>> no conspiracy,
>>>
>>> Yes conspiracy if you accepted the drugs, or agreed and took an
>>> "overt step"
>>> toward possessing/accepting the drugs.
>>
>> You really need to read the conspiracy statute. If someone hands you
>> a joint and you take a puff and hand it backed, you didn't conspire
>> and you didn't possess.
>
> You really are dumber than a box of rocks.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> people offer drugs all the time for all kinds of reasons.
>>>
>>> And you're a clueless nitwit if you think your acceptance of
>>> those drugs wouldn't constitute a crime, State and/or Federal.
>>
>> It would constitute a state crime. But not neccesarily a federal one
>> if you never purchased.
>
> Really? So if one doesn't "purchase" the drugs, no Federal crime is
> committed, eh moron?
>
>> And not a felony.
>
> So cite the Federal "misdemeanor" that involves the distribution,
> sale, possession and/or use of cocaine.
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