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Subject: Re: __ NY Gov. Patterson admits to committing FELONIES <= is NY full of CRIMINALS ? __ Posted on: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:56:06 -0600

Deadrat wrote:
> "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote
>> Deadrat wrote:
>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" wrote in
>>>> "Bo Raxo" wrote in message
>>>>> "Reality_CheckŠ" wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Federal Drug Laws not apply to the Felonies in question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not established they were felonies,
>>>>
>>>> Do tell how one can conspire to purchase/possess cocaine
>>>> without committing a felony.
>>>
>>> One can't. But it's easy to purchase and possess cocaine without
>>> conspiring with anyone to do so.
>>>
>>>>> and it is possible federal charges didn't apply.
>>>>
>>>> Please do tell how one can purchase, possess and/or use cocaine
>>>> in the U$A without violating Federal Felony laws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did David Patterson state he conspired, purchased, obtained and
>>>>>> used cocaine in New York, or is that another one of Larry's
>>>>>> classic strawmen ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Patterson stated he used.
>>>>
>>>> So where and how did he obtain the cocaine he used?
>>>
>>> He'll have to tell us. But if you go looking for the drugs on your
>>> own,
>>
>> And just "find" them laying on the ground?
>
> I've never been that lucky.
>
>>> or you've got friends who don't mind sharing,
>>
>> Distribution.
>
> Possibly the friends.

And YOU, the distributee.


>
>>> you don't have to conspire to obtain said drugs.
>>
>> So you stole the drugs from your friends?
>
> Friends don't let friends steal drugs from friends.

So you prefer to play the role of distributee in
the chain of distribution, eh .chop ?


>
>> That's likely to be another felony in many jurisdictions.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>> I've had people offer me drugs - for free -
>>>>
>>>> Conspiracy to Distribute/Possess.
>>>>
>>>>> at parties and in nightclubs and bars. ( When you turn 'em down
>>>>> they think you must be a cop. ) No purchase,
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant, it's still distribution.
>>>
>>> On the part of the giver, perhaps.
>>
>> Well then, all those 1000s of people convicted and/or imprisoned
>> for conspiracy to distribute, who were merely the receivers of,
>> or other peripheral players to the distribution of drugs will be
>> happy you've figured out a legal loophole to get them freed.
>
> Sorry, but I don't believe that there are thousands of people who were
> caught with small amounts of drugs and convicted of trafficking.

Bwhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Take your "beliefs" and 10 gallons of cyanide KoolAidŽ and start a cult, stimpy.


>
>>>>> no conspiracy,
>>>>
>>>> Yes conspiracy if you accepted the drugs, or agreed and took an
>>>> "overt step" toward possessing/accepting the drugs.
>>>
>>> Conspiracy takes conspirators, fellow planners. An overt step to
>>> commit a crime may be taken alone.
>>
>> So from whom are you obtaining the drugs without their agreement?
>
> I was hypothetically doing in on my own.

The miracle of the Virgin Line ?

>
>> Please tell us you aren't so pig-ignorant to think that ALL the
>> conspirators of a crime must take an overt act in furtherance
>> of the crime for the overall criminal conspiracy to become choate.
>
> No, all it takes is an overt act on the part of one conspirator,

Exactamundo!

> but they must be planning the same crime. Unless you want to posit a
> conspiracy to use drugs.

Distribution = distributor + distributee

Got it, Spicoli ?

>
>>>>> people offer drugs all the time for all kinds of reasons.
>>>>
>>>> And you're a clueless nitwit if you think your acceptance of
>>>> those drugs wouldn't constitute a crime, State and/or Federal.
>>>
>>> No one says it isn't a crime, just that it needn't be conspiracy.
>>
>> So tell us then how you would obtain cocaine from your supplier
>> without conspiring with them, or committing another crime such as
>> theft, stupid rat.
>
> The crimes are possession, use, and trafficking. They're separate.

Yet linear.

> If I've got a warehouse of weed, I'll be indicted for the last. If
> I'm caught with an ounce, not so much.

Irrelevant to how many crimes you committed to OBTAIN that ounce, dipstick.

You're starting to sound like Bo, all theory and wishful thinking, little
reality.