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Re: __ BoRat or DeadRaxo ... you decide -- NY Gov. Patterson admits to committing FELONIES <= is NY full of CRIMINALS ? __ Posted on: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:06:25 -0600


"Deadrat" wrote in message
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> "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote in
> news:6525kmF2dct3gU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> Deadrat wrote:
>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote in
>>> news:65070vF2cubb5U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> Deadrat wrote:
>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote in
>>>
>>>
>>>> Right after you cite the statute the discretely criminalizes being
>>>> a "distributor" and not "distribution" or the conspiracy/enterprise
>>>> of that distribution.
>>>
>>> Oh, what the hell. You made me look. Happy now?
>>>
>>> 21USC841A.(a)
>>>
>>> Except as authorized by this subchapter, it shall be unlawful for any
>>> person knowingly or intentionally-
>>> (1) to manufacture, distribute, or dispense, or possess with intent
>>> to manufacture, distribute, or dispense, a controlled substance; ....
>>>

>>>
>>> Note the big three: manufacture, distribute, or dispense. And the
>>> criminal act is placed on "any person" doing this. That is the
>>> manufacturer, distributor, or dispenser.
>>
>> And the Criminal Conspiracy codes or statutes would also
>> criminalize "any person" who knowingly agrees with said
>> manufacturer, distrubutor or dispensor in furtherance of
>> the commission of said crime(s).
>
> Of course. But the crime in question would have to be to distribute to
> another party.

Got a citation to statute where it excludes the distributee from
being "another party" in the crime of distribution ?

> Not what the buyer for personal use does.
>
>> A criminal distributee is an integral part of the chain of criminal
>> distrubution for a criminal distributor. Ipso Facto, Ratzo.
>
> And there's no reason that I can see that the statute couldn't have been
> written just that way, to make drug possession part of the illegal act of
> participating in a drug "network."

No need to. Possession is a discrete and separate crime from distribution,
as evidence by the fact that THOUSANDS of defendants are charged
with both distribution and possession and conspiracy, all for the same
illegal
drugs.



> But that's not how it's written,
> simple possession and distribution are criminalized separately.

Yep. Which even to someone playing as obtuse as you are, the
distributee can in fact be in violation of both criminal distribution,
criminal possession and conspiracy for same, all over the same
batch of drugs.


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