In article , tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
wrote:
> In article ,
> Larry wrote:
> >In article , tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In article ,
> >> Larry wrote:
> >> >In article , tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article ,
> >> >> Larry wrote:
> >> >> >In article , tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> In article ,
> >> >> >> Thanatos wrote:
> >> >> >> >In article
> >> >> >> >,
> >> >> >> > Larry wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> In article <64rhs6F2crajtU1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> >> >> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > NY Governor Patterson admits to committing FELONIES
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Sorry, none of these are felonies, you ignoramus.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Possessing cocaine is a misdemeanor, New York Penal Law 220.03,
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> the possession of marijuana, P.L. 221.10.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So much for a "reality check"!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Now watch. It'll just claim you're lying over and over again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Possession of half a gram (not much) is a class D felony, P.L.
> >> >> >> 220.06.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If you look at the statute closely, unlike the other weight-based
> >> >> >cocaine charges, this must be 500 milligrams of PURE cocaine. Since
> >> >> >street-level cocaine is far from pure (generally, anywhere from
> >> >> >40-80%),
> >> >> >generally people are in possession of far more than a gram for this
> >> >> >statute to actually apply.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This amount of weight is far more than what most users would possess,
> >> >> >and is often indicia of a seller.
> >> >>
> >> >> Going in the middle of your range, 60%, we're still talking less
> >> >> than a gram. Any particular reason why you would claim otherwise?
> >> >
> >> >No, why would I? Possessing less than a gram of white powder can in
> >> >fact be a felony in NY if the pure cocaine is over 500MG.
> >>
> >> So why would you write, as you did, that generally people are in
> >> possession of "far more than a gram" for the felony charge to apply?
> >
> >Because cocaine is mixed with other substances, known as mixing agents.
> >When someone is in possession of such a substance, the laboratory must
> >analyze the substance to determine how much is pure cocaine.
> >
> >I've seen cases where people are in possession of over 2 grams of
> >cocaine (aggregate weight) but it's less than 500 milligrams of pure
> >cocaine, making it a misdemeanor (and very weak).
> >
> >Are you really having this much trouble keeping up?
>
> You've now gone from "generally" to "I've seen cases."
>
> Are you really having this much trouble admitting you were wrong?
I haven't said anything incorrect in this thread. Your problem (one of
them, actually) is that you can't distinguish fact from opinion.
If you want to argue over whether these laws should be in effect, or
whether buyers and sellers should be charged as co-conspirators in the
sale, we can discuss that all you want and you can tell me why you think
your position is better than mine.
However, when I am telling you what the law *is,* you and your friend
Reality/Jonez/Vox/Ultra/Whoever can argue with me until you're blue in
the face, but you're still wrong. |