judith wrote:
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:30:06 GMT, Mike_B
> wrote:
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> I do not believe that the Police as an organisation are racist; I do
> not believe that the Conservative Party are racist, in fact I can't
> think of many organisations which are racist.
The fallacy of Institutional Racism is visible for many to see....
"institutional racism" has become part of our language, while being an alien
concept. It has value in places like South Africa, where we had
organisations set up with specific paractices, official and unofficial
designed to segregate and discriminate, such practices have also existed in
recent times in the USA. Segregation in the USA is within living memory of
many, the customs, practices and cultures of organisations, especially long
standing ones like the police can be traced back over mulitple decades,
without a positive desire to counter such cultures, formed when blacks where
second class citizen, on top of social and economic currents that still
influence from the times when blacks where slaves, then the allegations of
Institutional Racism are valid and make sense.
In the UK blacks where never second class citizens, never lived here as
slaves, and never denied property, public employment, the choice of who to
marry, or the freedom as possesed by any other man as a matter of public
policy. That doesnt mean discirimination didnt exist, not by a long shot, it
existed, especially for the first large scale immgration in the 1950s, in
private housing, private employment and general unwelcome in society. But
the idea that the Met Police had within its structures inbuilt racism, in
the same way that say NYPD has, is absurd and made on pretty much no
evidence...
> I do however believe that the BNP are inherently racist; I would
> suspect that my view might be quite common.
And probably true, but they are quite clear about their core beliefs, which
is mildly refreshing, their preamble seems to be along the lines, that the
human race is full of rich variety and cultures, and that they believe that
economic and social forces are resulting in the elmination of such variety,
and that their organisation is there to make sure the British
culture/ethnicity will survive.
If it is true, and not touchy feely pc nonesense, it is a large move away
from the NF which is white superemacist organisation ready and willing to
use violence to achieve their aims.
Gaz
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