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Subject: Re: Headmaster faces sack over criminal record... for an out-of-date Posted on: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:50:37 GMT

Alex Heney wrote:
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 10:05:46 +0100, Cynic
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 May 2008 21:42:24 +0100, Alex Heney
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> You would have to show that looking at pictures of *any* group of
>>>> people is likely to increase the chance of a person attacking a member
>>>> of that group.
>>> I would have to show nothing at all. Why do you think I might have to?
>> Because that is the only justification for banning a person from
>> carrying such people in a taxi.
>>
>
> So no answer then (not that I was asking you, I was asking the PP, who
> also gave no answer)
>
>
>>> And I do not for one moment believe that looking at such pictures is
>>> going to increase the chance of such an attack.
>>> But I *do* believe that the people who would choose to look at such
>>> pictures are *on average* people who are more likely to do so.
>> Only in the same way that men who look at indecent pictures of women
>> are more likely to attack women than people who do not look at such
>> images.
>
> Not true.

That doesn't ring true to me. Let me explain:

ISTM that the vast majority of men that would attack women would also
enjoy looking at indecent pictures of them. Thus a woman would be at
less risk from a person who doesn't, compared to one that does. That
isn't to say that there is a significant risk of attack from a man
picked at random from either group.

>
> No crime is committed by looking at "normal" adult .. Therefore
> people who do so are not already aware of breaking the law, while
> those who look at child . undoubtedly are.

The set of those currently looking includes the subset of those that
would continue to look, even if it was illegal to do so.

>
> That still does not mean that all (or even remotely close to "all")
> those who do so will take an "extra step" in illegality, but it does
> mean that there is a higher chance they will.

The same logic applies. Although it is likely that anyone that indulges
in any activity would also enjoy looking at pictures depicting that
activity, it doesn't follow that there must be a significant risk that
someone that looks will also act.

--
Sue