"abelard" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 May 2008 21:40:00 +0100, James Hammerton
> wrote:
>
>>Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>>> "James Hammerton" wrote in message
>>>> news:68h136F2stlmsU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Yet more guilt by accusation in Britain. From the BBC
>>>>> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7389547.stm):
>>>>>
>>>>> "To critics it sounds like a scenario from some Orwellian
>>>>> nightmare.
>>>>>
>>>>> An online database of workers accused of theft and dishonesty,
>>>>> regardless of whether they have been convicted of any crime, which
>>>>> bosses can access when vetting potential employees.
>>>>>
>>>>> But this is no dystopian fantasy. Later this month, the National
>>>>> Staff Dismissal Register (NSDR) is expected to go live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Organisers say that major companies including Harrods, Selfridges
>>>>> and Reed Managed Services have already signed up to the scheme. By
>>>>> the end of May they will be able to check whether candidates for
>>>>> jobs have faced allegations of stealing, forgery, fraud, damaging
>>>>> company property or causing a loss to their employers and
>>>>> suppliers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Workers sacked for these offences will be included on the
>>>>> register,
>>>>> regardless of whether police had enough evidence to convict them.
>>>>> Also on the list will be employees who resigned before they could
>>>>> face disciplinary proceedings at work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the vague "causing loss to their employers" bit of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> And who's behind this? The AABC, a group set up under a partnership
>>>>> between the Home Office and the British Retail Consortium (i.e. a bit
>>>>> of corporate statism):
>>>>>
>>>>> The register is an initiative of Action Against Business Crime
>>>>> (AABC), which was established as a joint venture between the Home
>>>>> Office and the British Retail Consortium "to set up and maintain
>>>>> business crime reduction partnerships".
>>>>>
>>>>> To be fair to the Home Office they say they stopped funding the AABC
>>>>> this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder whether AABC could be sued for libel by someone wrongly
>>>>> accused via this database?
>>>>
>>>> Seems to be punishment without trial, which is forbidden by the human
>>>> rights act.
>>>>
>>>> And yes it does appear to be libelous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mind you so many business these days are run by criminals that
>>>> they might very the the fact that you are percieved to be a criminal
>>>> as a positive attribute, someone who would fit in well with the crooks
>>>> already working there.
>>>
>>> And what of the Data Protection Act?
>>>
>>Good question! Do employers have the right to pass on unproven
>>allegations against their employees to other employers without the
>>consent of the employees concerned?
>
> while this is (and has been) standard for many years....
>
> 'they' have various ways of dealing with (getting around) this
> by always 'phoning up (or meeting) for confirmation of any
> written reference...
> and by 'damning with faint praise'....
> in 'professions' they widely keep black lists.....
Best keep them very carefully because if you get caught with such
a list you will have a hell of a lot of people sueing you!
>
> regards
>
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