On Thu, 8 May 2008 22:42:05 +0100, "Lord Turkey Cough"
wrote:
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>"abelard" wrote in message
>news:k9s624h22t7itvdvuekdjmvofnf1li1cm4@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 21:40:00 +0100, James Hammerton
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>>> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>>>> "James Hammerton" wrote in message
>>>>> news:68h136F2stlmsU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> Yet more guilt by accusation in Britain. From the BBC
>>>>>> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7389547.stm):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "To critics it sounds like a scenario from some Orwellian
>>>>>> nightmare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An online database of workers accused of theft and dishonesty,
>>>>>> regardless of whether they have been convicted of any crime, which
>>>>>> bosses can access when vetting potential employees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this is no dystopian fantasy. Later this month, the National
>>>>>> Staff Dismissal Register (NSDR) is expected to go live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Organisers say that major companies including Harrods, Selfridges
>>>>>> and Reed Managed Services have already signed up to the scheme. By
>>>>>> the end of May they will be able to check whether candidates for
>>>>>> jobs have faced allegations of stealing, forgery, fraud, damaging
>>>>>> company property or causing a loss to their employers and
>>>>>> suppliers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Workers sacked for these offences will be included on the
>>>>>> register,
>>>>>> regardless of whether police had enough evidence to convict them.
>>>>>> Also on the list will be employees who resigned before they could
>>>>>> face disciplinary proceedings at work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the vague "causing loss to their employers" bit of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And who's behind this? The AABC, a group set up under a partnership
>>>>>> between the Home Office and the British Retail Consortium (i.e. a bit
>>>>>> of corporate statism):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The register is an initiative of Action Against Business Crime
>>>>>> (AABC), which was established as a joint venture between the Home
>>>>>> Office and the British Retail Consortium "to set up and maintain
>>>>>> business crime reduction partnerships".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be fair to the Home Office they say they stopped funding the AABC
>>>>>> this year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder whether AABC could be sued for libel by someone wrongly
>>>>>> accused via this database?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to be punishment without trial, which is forbidden by the human
>>>>> rights act.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes it does appear to be libelous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mind you so many business these days are run by criminals that
>>>>> they might very the the fact that you are percieved to be a criminal
>>>>> as a positive attribute, someone who would fit in well with the crooks
>>>>> already working there.
>>>>
>>>> And what of the Data Protection Act?
>>>>
>>>Good question! Do employers have the right to pass on unproven
>>>allegations against their employees to other employers without the
>>>consent of the employees concerned?
>>
>> while this is (and has been) standard for many years....
>>
>> 'they' have various ways of dealing with (getting around) this
>> by always 'phoning up (or meeting) for confirmation of any
>> written reference...
>> and by 'damning with faint praise'....
>> in 'professions' they widely keep black lists.....
>
>Best keep them very carefully because if you get caught with such
>a list you will have a hell of a lot of people sueing you!
of course...but the sort of people who keep these lists,
do not tend to hand them around.....
plenty can even be kept in the head and gossiped around
among peers at soirées...
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