On Thu, 08 May 2008 20:47:40 +0100, Cynic
wrote:
>On Thu, 08 May 2008 20:19:58 +0100, MM wrote:
>
>>>>So you condone anti-social behaviour, then?
>
>>>Do you consider that drinking beer is antisocial behaviour?
>
>>Walking around boozed up to the eyeballs, yes.
>
>*If* they are not breaking the law or operating machinery, what
>business is it of yours what their BA level might be? Note that if
>they are being *excessively* annoying they could be classed as being
>drunk & disorderly and thus breaking the law.
>
>>>> (Or do you think those
>>>>nice lads will stop after three pints of scrumpy?)
>
>>>What business is it of yours whether they do or do not?
>
>>It IS my business - and everybody else's - when they drink to excess
>>and are damned annoying, not to say intrusive and objectionable, which
>>is what all this is about. It is NOT about someone just a quiet drink
>>while feeding the ducks.
>
>Do you believe that the police should take action against a person who
>is merely annoying someone? If so, would you be happy if the police
>came and confiscated your computer so that you stop annoying me with
>your posts?
>
>>> If they
>>>start carrying out criminal acts, *then* is the time for the police to
>>>step in, not before.
>
>>But being drunk and disorderly, which is endemic across Britain every
>>Friday night, is plenty enough time for the police to act.
>
>Being D&D is a criminal act and so I have no problem with the police
>acting *if* that is the case. Having a possibility that the person
>*might* become D&D later is *not* a criminal act and I *do* have a
>problem with the police acting.
>
>>>Or perhaps you believe that it is also OK for a policeman to
>>>confiscate the glass of wine you are enjoying with your meal at a
>>>restaurant, just in case you get a bit squiffy and start abusing the
>>>waiter?
>
>>No, because that falls into the category of feeding the ducks (see
>>above). You are trying to equate the local vicar drinking ONE glass of
>>wine with a lager lout downing ten pints while pissing up against a
>>wall in full view of passers-by.
>
>No, it is you who thinks they can see into the future. I'd rather the
>police act on the facts of what is actually taking place rather than
>their imagination of what might happen later.
>
>I've come across many groups of inebriated youths, and in most cases
>they were not doing anything criminal whatsoever. Even if they were
>being a bit loud and rowdy they were within the envelope of behaviour
>that I consider should be tolerated in the given time & place.
Well, of COURSE Britain has absolutely no problem whatsoever with
binge-drinking and anti-social behaviour and other countries are
clamouring to know the secret of our success!
MM |