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Subject: Re: What's the difference between this and unlawful killing? Posted on: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:35:00 +0000

Cynic wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 22:56:02 GMT, Periander <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> No they are both straw men in that there is no comparison between the
>> examples cited. The man who died whilst being detained was being
>> detained by lawful authority because of his criminal behaviour.
>
> Reasonable chastisement is lawful to use on a child. Reasonable force
> is lawful to use when effecting an arrest.
>
> When the force used ends up causing fatal injuries it cannot be
> considered reasonable and so becomes unlawful in *both* cases.
>
Lethal force *can* be lawful in some cases: as Fordham discovered when
he refused a lawful instruction to leave the premises (or ". Off" as
the PP said earlier). In that case, however, the killer was prosecuted
and acquitted after justifying his actions to a court.

--
Mike



> The analogy is perfectly sound.
>