In article , Periander
<4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> wrote:
> Juan Kerr wrote in news:6f631f3d-71e7-495b-b5a3-
> 70c52c5fe1a6@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On May 9, 6:33 pm, Nige wrote:
> >> A security guard stopped him, called the police, and my
> >> son - largely out of embarrassment - admitted to what he'd done and
> >> accepted an £80 fine
> >
> > Ah.
> >
> > There's his problem. Right there.
>
> And there we were thinking that his problem was that he was a thief. He
> could have chosen to dispute the matter and been convicted at court - which
> would have been a criminal record.
I really wouldn't like to be seen as defending his actions - but as he
explained it, he went through the checkout, noticed the girl hadn't
charged him for something, made a stupid 'on the spot' decision to say
nothing about it, and was then stopped. Having no experience as a shop
lifter (I'd like to believe), he immediately confessed and accepted the
FPN as the most lenient punishment he could expect.
I'm sure he could have argued that he hadn't actually noticed he hadn't
been charged - but he was so shocked by what had happened, he
immediately put his hand up, accepting the policeman's claim that
paying an FPN fine carried the least stain on his character.
I repeat, I make no attempt to defend his actions - and as I pointed
out, this wasn't the reason for my post...
> However, to answer the OP an FPN is not a conviction, it's not even a
> caution (which except in certain circumstances cannot be cited after 3
> years) and there will be no record on the PNC.
Are you absolutely sure about this? The reason I ask is that a couple
of years ago I drove through a set of traffic lights just as they'd
turned to red. The result was I received an FPN for failure to observe
a traffic signal. OK, so not public enemy number one. But a short time
later, I was again stopped late at night and the policeman (obviously
short of something to do) radio'd through for a PNC check on me. When
the results came back confirming my name and address they also included
details of the earlier driving offence. This suggests to me that FPN
details are kept on the police national computer...
> The issue of this FPN will have no effect on him running a pub.
It really would be a relief to hear this - if you're absolutely certain
this is the case...
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