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Re: Repercussions of a fixed penalty notice for theft Posted on: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:32:24 GMT

Nige wrote in
news:100520080348347397%nigel@room.freeserve.co.uk:

> In article , Periander
> <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Juan Kerr wrote in
>> news:6f631f3d-71e7-495b-b5a3-
>> 70c52c5fe1a6@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On May 9, 6:33 pm, Nige wrote:
>> >> A security guard stopped him, called the police, and my
>> >> son - largely out of embarrassment - admitted to what he'd done
>> >> and accepted an £80 fine
>> >
>> > Ah.
>> >
>> > There's his problem. Right there.
>>
>> And there we were thinking that his problem was that he was a thief.
>> He could have chosen to dispute the matter and been convicted at
>> court - which would have been a criminal record.
>
> I really wouldn't like to be seen as defending his actions - ...

My comment was directed really towards the person I replied to, to put
it bluntly some folks around here are absolute wankers and they
sometimes need a little reminding of facts of life. It wasn't a dig at
your son, one minor theft three years ago hardly makes him Ronnie Biggs.

>> However, to answer the OP an FPN is not a conviction, it's not even a
>> caution (which except in certain circumstances cannot be cited after
>> 3 years) and there will be no record on the PNC.
>
> Are you absolutely sure about this?

Without qualification or hesitation yes, absolutely. An FPN is not a
conviction.

> The reason I ask is that a couple
> of years ago I drove through a set of traffic lights just as they'd
> turned to red. The result was I received an FPN for failure to observe
> a traffic signal. OK, so not public enemy number one. But a short time
> later, I was again stopped late at night and the policeman (obviously
> short of something to do) radio'd through for a PNC check on me. When
> the results came back confirming my name and address they also
> included details of the earlier driving offence. This suggests to me
> that FPN details are kept on the police national computer...

Much more likely to be a local database, there's no reason whatsoever
for a driving FPN t be on PNC.

>> The issue of this FPN will have no effect on him running a pub.
>
> It really would be a relief to hear this - if you're absolutely
> certain this is the case...

I am, even if a record still exists somewhere and is dug out upon your
son's application going through it's such a petty thing in the greater
scheme of things it will not have any baring on the application -
assuming of course that there's no other skeletons lurcking in the
cupboard.

--

Regards,

Periander
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