"abelard" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:35:44 -0700, "J A" wrote:
>
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>>"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
>>news:cdQhk.365$AB3.1391@eagle.america.net...
>>> Pogue Gans told us long ago that the War In Iraq was ALREADY LOST.
>>>
>>> So did Senator Harry Reid, the Majority Leader in the United States
>>> Senate.
>>
>>By one statistical study (Lancet?), over 4 pct of the population of Iraq
>>has
>>met with early death, in excess of what would have occured based on
>>pre-war
>>death rates. That's not just violent death, but also death by excess
>>health
>>problems, bad water, lack of medical attention available, etc., associated
>>with the civil breakdown that occured, and continues.
>
> yeah, and it's widely acknowledged bollox....
Bullshit.
> so...are you dishonest...or are you thick
I'm neither - you are a dumbass - it will be a long time before anyone can
determine whether this study is close to the mark or not.
It's controversial and heavily disputed, but it was also supported by
another independent study:
" The Lancet surveys have been supported by many epidemiologists[5] and
statisticians, as well as the September 2007 ORB survey. ORB used a survey
method, as did the Lancet authors, and ORB also produced a high estimate of
Iraqi deaths. However, the Lancet surveys have been criticized by the US and
Iraqi governments, the Iraq Body Count project, epidemiologists,
demographers, Iraq-war journalists and others. See the sections below on
"criticisms". "
""On September 14, 2007, ORB (Opinion Research Business), an independent UK
based polling agency, published an estimate of the total casualties of the
Iraq war. The figure suggested by ORB, which was based on survey responses
from 1,499 adults, stands at 1,220,580 deaths, with a margin of error of
2.5%. This estimate, although conducted independently, and using a different
polling methodology, is consistent with the Lancet findings.[77]
On 28 January 2008, ORB published an update based on additional work carried
out in rural areas of Iraq. Some 600 additional interviews were undertaken
and as a result of this the death estimate was revised to 1,033,000 with a
given range of 946,000 to 1,120,000.[78] ""
THe following article discusses the Lancet study in some depth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
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