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Re: => Top Secret U$ Torture Memo Leaked ! <= whoooop! there it is! Posted on: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:47:56 GMT


"Reality_Check©" wrote in message
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> "PLMerite" wrote in message
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>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>> news:6esmh5F8o0asU3@mid.individual.net...
>>> PLMerite wrote:
>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>>>> news:6eskndF8opieU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> PLMerite wrote:
>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:6es8u2F8m8r2U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> Reality_Check© wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if the US would consider it torture if AQ captured some US
>>>>>>> citizens and then waterboarded them on video posted to the Net?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Generally what AQ does now is cut their heads off and post the video
>>>>>> to the net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a little question for you:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AQ has planted a dirty bomb, maybe upwind from your kid's school.
>>>>>> Agents of your government have captured one of the terrs who knows
>>>>>> where the bomb is located, but he's not talking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much cake and ice cream will it take to get him to cooperate?
>>>>> Here's another for you.
>>>>> AQ has planted a small bomb somewhere, or probably plan to.
>>>>> You have rounded up all the suspects and their friends, family and
>>>>> contacts. How many do you have to torture for how long before you get
>>>>> some useful information?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Start with the leader of the cell. He should crack under waterboarding
>>>> after a few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> How much cake and ice cream = 1 minute of waterboarding?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That rather assumes you know who the leader is.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it does. Nobody's advocating torturing innocent people.
>
> Good thing then that Jack Bauer never gets it wrong, eh?
>
>>
>>
>>> But torturing a whole bunch of people will get you loads of names for
>>> the next round of torture.
>>
>>
>> So, what was your answer to *my* question:
>>
>> AQ has planted a dirty bomb, maybe upwind from your kid's school.
>
> What's the address of your kids school?
>
>
>> Agents of your government have captured one of the terrs who knows where
>> the
>> bomb is located, but he's not talking.
>
> How do you know he's one of the "terrs"?
>
> And how do you know he knows where the bomb is?
>
>
>> Not some random person of the right ethnicity or religion, positively one
>> of the plotters.
>
> How can you be positive he knows, and participated in, the plot?
>
>> He, his car, his flat, all have residue from making the dirty bomb.
>
> Funny, OJ's car, house and clothes all had residue from slashing Nichole
> and Ron to death, yet it wasn't sufficient to conclude he did it.
>
> Perhaps they should have waterboarded him, since it "isn't torture"
> and "is an effective means" of interrogation, eh?
>
>>
>> It's going to explode in about an hour,
>
> How do you know that?
>
>> somewhere in a crowded, traffic-jammed city where *your* family lives.
>
> How do you know where the bomb is?
>
>> If you don't get the information *he* has,
>
> How do you know he *has* the information you need?
>
>> innocent people are going to die,
>
> How do you know the people who will die are innocent?
> What if one of the people who will die is OJ?
> What if another one of the people who will die is Dick Cheney?
>
>>probably people you care about.
>
> What makes you think I'd care about them?
>
>>
>> He sits there and laughs at you.
>
> In what language?
>
>>
>> What do you do?
>
> Call Jack Bauer, he always gets it right, and in less than 60 minutes
> *with* commercial breaks!
>
>>
>>
>> Regards, PLMerite
>
> . you, . what you stand for, and . your mother for bringing a
> worthless piece
> of shit like you into this world.
>
> Any questions?


No, you've already answered any questions I had.

Except what you would do in the circumstances I outlined.


Regards, PLMerite


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