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Re: => Top Secret U$ Torture Memo Leaked ! <= whoooop! there it is! Posted on: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:55:04 -0600


"PLMerite" wrote
> "Reality_Check©" wrote in message
>> "PLMerite" wrote in message
>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>>>> PLMerite wrote:
>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>>>>>> PLMerite wrote:
>>>>>>> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Reality_Check© wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if the US would consider it torture if AQ captured some US
>>>>>>>> citizens and then waterboarded them on video posted to the Net?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Generally what AQ does now is cut their heads off and post the video
>>>>>>> to the net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a little question for you:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AQ has planted a dirty bomb, maybe upwind from your kid's
>>>>>>> school. Agents of your government have captured one of the terrs who
>>>>>>> knows where the bomb is located, but he's not talking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much cake and ice cream will it take to get him to
>>>>>>> cooperate?
>>>>>> Here's another for you.
>>>>>> AQ has planted a small bomb somewhere, or probably plan to.
>>>>>> You have rounded up all the suspects and their friends, family and
>>>>>> contacts. How many do you have to torture for how long before you get
>>>>>> some useful information?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Start with the leader of the cell. He should crack under
>>>>> waterboarding after a few minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> How much cake and ice cream = 1 minute of waterboarding?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That rather assumes you know who the leader is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it does. Nobody's advocating torturing innocent people.
>>
>> Good thing then that Jack Bauer never gets it wrong, eh?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> But torturing a whole bunch of people will get you loads of names for
>>>> the next round of torture.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, what was your answer to *my* question:
>>>
>>> AQ has planted a dirty bomb, maybe upwind from your kid's school.
>>
>> What's the address of your kids school?
>>
>>
>>> Agents of your government have captured one of the terrs who knows where
>>> the
>>> bomb is located, but he's not talking.
>>
>> How do you know he's one of the "terrs"?
>>
>> And how do you know he knows where the bomb is?
>>
>>
>>> Not some random person of the right ethnicity or religion, positively
>>> one of the plotters.
>>
>> How can you be positive he knows, and participated in, the plot?
>>
>>> He, his car, his flat, all have residue from making the dirty bomb.
>>
>> Funny, OJ's car, house and clothes all had residue from slashing Nichole
>> and Ron to death, yet it wasn't sufficient to conclude he did it.
>>
>> Perhaps they should have waterboarded him, since it "isn't torture"
>> and "is an effective means" of interrogation, eh?
>>
>>>
>>> It's going to explode in about an hour,
>>
>> How do you know that?
>>
>>> somewhere in a crowded, traffic-jammed city where *your* family lives.
>>
>> How do you know where the bomb is?
>>
>>> If you don't get the information *he* has,
>>
>> How do you know he *has* the information you need?
>>
>>> innocent people are going to die,
>>
>> How do you know the people who will die are innocent?
>> What if one of the people who will die is OJ?
>> What if another one of the people who will die is Dick Cheney?
>>
>>>probably people you care about.
>>
>> What makes you think I'd care about them?
>>
>>>
>>> He sits there and laughs at you.
>>
>> In what language?
>>
>>>
>>> What do you do?
>>
>> Call Jack Bauer, he always gets it right, and in less than 60 minutes
>> *with* commercial breaks!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, PLMerite
>>
>> . you, . what you stand for, and . your mother for bringing a
>> worthless piece
>> of shit like you into this world.
>>
>> Any questions?
>
>
> No, you've already answered any questions I had.
>
> Except what you would do in the circumstances I outlined.

Round up *you* and your family, since it's obvious from what you've
posted that you have significant inside information about who knows
what, then I'd waterboard each and every one of your family members
in front of you until you told me everything I want to know, whether you
knew it or not. Then I'd waterboard you in front of your family, to
double-check and verify the bullshit you told me whilst I was waterboarding
your family.

Then I'd rinse and repeat. Just for fun.


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