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Subject: Re: Uk citizen needs advice on moving to America Posted on: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:24:41 +0000 (UTC)

On 4 Apr, 19:19, "J. J. Farrell" wrote:
> Sal_55 wrote:
> > On 3 Apr, 22:59, "J. J. Farrell" wrote:
> >> Sal_55 wrote:
> >>> On 3 Apr, 16:39, nespammez...@antispam.net (Bill) wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 02:21:45 -0700 (PDT), Sal_55 >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> No, I wasn't playing an April Fools prank. I was quite serious in my=

> >>>>> questions.
> >>>>> Thanks again and bye.
> >>>> reposted:
> >>>>> There are basically SEVEN ways that you can get a visa to live and w=
ork
> >>>>> in the US:
> >>>>> (1) Marriage (or engagement in anticipation of marriage) to a US
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 citizen.
> >>>>> (2) You have skills that are in short supply in the US e.g. scientif=
ic
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 or medical training. A degree is normally a must. Or you hav=
e
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 superior specialist skills with at least 12 years experience=
.
> >>>>> (3) You have an Employer who is willing to transfer you - but even t=
he
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 employer has to make a good case for you - so you have to be=
a
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 manager unless you fall under category (2) above.
> >>>>> (4) You may get a Green card in the diversity lottery (UK citizens,
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 except N.Ireland, are not generally eligible unless you, you=
r spouse
> >>>>> =A0 =A0 or parents were born abroad or held a different citizenship.=

> >>>>> (5)You own or buy business (does not get you permanent resident stat=
us
> >>>>> =A0 =A0i.e. no green card)
> >>>>> =A0 =A0The business must have a minimum value of around $150k (more =
the
> >>>>> =A0 =A0better) bearing in mind you will need somewhere to live and w=
ith any
> >>>>> =A0 =A0startup business you will need at least 2 years living money =
as back
> >>>>> =A0 =A0up. So a figure of $350k would be a nearer minimum
> >>>>> (6)You are an "investor" i.e. you have at least US $1m in assets to
> >>>>> =A0 =A0bring with you. And your background will be investigatedto th=
e hilt.
> >>>>> (7)You have a close relative (mother, father, brother, sister and no=

> >>>>> =A0 =A0further) who is an US citizen who would sponsor you, approx t=
ime this
> >>>>> =A0 =A0take 2-12 years...
> >>>> Figure out which one of those applies to you. =A0If none of them, you=
're
> >>>> out of luck.
> >>>> BTW, foreign student fees at US colleges are very high. =A0I doubt th=
at
> >>>> you will find any subsidies unless you are an extraordinarily gifted
> >>>> student with world-class talent.
> >>> Thanks for the kind information Bill. I don't think any of the seven
> >>> categories apply to me. But I'm willing to be flexible. Meaning that I=

> >>> don't mind getting a job first. And then once I have enough money to
> >>> pay for the tuition fees. Or even work and study at the same time.
> >>> The only problem is that the area of work I'm looking at is not
> >>> specialised. Meaning that I'm sure there are plenty of US citizens
> >>> capable of doing it. However if I can show the US embassy that the
> >>> employer is finding it hard to find suitable US citizens to fill his
> >>> vacancies, do you think I'd have any better chance of getting a US
> >>> visa?
> >> No, the rules are very strict. the categories of "specialist skills" ar=
e
> >> fairly tightly defined; if you don't have a degree it can be very
> >> difficult to qualify for one of these visas; you have to find a job
> >> before you go to the USA, then the employer has to get authorisation to=

> >> employ you (which involves him spending time and money); there are a
> >> limited number of authorisations available each year, and about twice a=
s
> >> many applications are made as are available; applications have to be
> >> made on April 1 to start work on or after October 1, so you're too late=

> >> for this year anyway; an employer has to want you enough that he's
> >> willing to wait for 6 to 18 months after offering the job before you
> >> start work.
>
> >> Essentially, if you don't fairly obviously fit into one of these
> >> categories then it is unlikely to be possible for you to live and work
> >> in the USA. Even if you do fit in one of these, it can sometimes still
> >> be very difficult to make it happen. This is why people thought your
> >> posting was a joke; it is extremely difficult to get to live and work i=
n
> >> the USA unless your situation happens to fit perfectly, and medical and=

> >> tuition fees are very high if you get there.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Thanks for your advice Mr Farrell. So, this means my plans to move to
> > America are over?
>
> It depends how committed you are to making it happen, and how long
> you're prepared for it to take before you go there; in practical terms,
> for most people in your sort of position it can't be done.
>
> You could find and make a genuine hetero.ual marriage with a USA
> citizen; you could study somewhere outside the USA and get a degree in a
> subject which would qualify you for one of the 'specialist' visas, then
> find someone to employ you under one of them (though you'd probably need
> a few years experience after the degree); you could get a management or
> specialist job with a multinational employer who would be prepared to
> transfer you to a USA office after you had worked for them for at least
> a year (the definition of 'specialist' is much less onerous in this
> case). There's likely to be a path of some sort open to many people, but
> it's a path which might take several years to get down, with most of
> your life being fitted around whatever you need to do to make it happen.- =
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Thanks again Mr Farrell for your advice. I think I'm just going to
have to find work for a multinational company here in the UK, and then
hope I can be transferred later on. Thanks again and bye.
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